tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post5936896670871266959..comments2023-10-17T03:41:01.759-04:00Comments on reflexiones finales: Squeezing the working classrussell1200http://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-18705346140945486352014-08-04T20:40:13.469-04:002014-08-04T20:40:13.469-04:00Degringolade: Yes, although the inner cities (at ...Degringolade: Yes, although the inner cities (at least the downwind side) also had the factories, so you did get tenement style slums to that people could walk to work. That is how I read NYC development. But I think what you say has the general ring of truth.<br /><br />Pioneer: Absolutely, a little austerity would help an awful lot of folks that I know.<br /><br />Spud: I have run into people who were in your situation. And at least as far as what happened to them is exactly as you say. They got tired of remote aloof ownership and walked: never to really recover. Not a personal collapse so much as permanent downshift.russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-46224694090184232452014-06-29T06:49:41.462-04:002014-06-29T06:49:41.462-04:00All that you stated is very true.
This slow collap...All that you stated is very true.<br />This slow collapse is tough.<br /><br />I work for an English gentleman that is extremely rich but also very miserly ! Also he is a pompous ass at times and very class oriented.<br /><br />The fact that he only visits a couple times a year and myself and one other person are the only ones here minding the business. Keeps me going because prospects out there cannot replace what I have currently.<br /><br />Good thing I've been prepping for thirty years or so....Spudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-46379403323910847302014-06-27T20:35:32.244-04:002014-06-27T20:35:32.244-04:00It will keep up until it doesn't. Eventually e...It will keep up until it doesn't. Eventually energy prices are going to catch up to yuppy service jobs and when that day comes manual labor will be back in fashion. I agree you have to get to the collapse first, which is the real trick isn't it? Except those who are moving out and dealing with austerity now are the one's who are going to be ahead soon.<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-58834566948828663582014-06-27T12:37:21.114-04:002014-06-27T12:37:21.114-04:00I have to go with the shantytowns surrounding a ur...I have to go with the shantytowns surrounding a urban core. <br /><br />It really does seem to be the wave of the past and the future. If you take a look at London in the 17th and 18th centuries, the outer areas were where the poor folk lived while the inner areas were where the rich folk lived.<br /><br />At least that is how I see it.Degringoladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893964959960977677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-90698118486008690882014-06-27T12:31:54.067-04:002014-06-27T12:31:54.067-04:00Sunnybrook: It is the tax and spend version of the...Sunnybrook: It is the tax and spend version of the trickledown theory.<br /><br />Degringolade: I am not aware that Marx was particularly good at matrix effects, but I agree that he is better at noting problems than at creating viable solutions.<br /><br />I am not sure how this will shake out in the long run. A lot depends on how strong the support system stays. Strong support systems likely allow a little more diffusion, no or little support systems seem to generate shantytowns tucked onto the outskirts of the most successful metropolises. russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-22316161123218057472014-06-27T09:30:57.897-04:002014-06-27T09:30:57.897-04:00At the risk of sounding com-symp, this is to be ex...At the risk of sounding com-symp, this is to be expected. <br /><br />The proles (< 4-year degree) will be shoved out of the center to the periphery where they will become more diffuse and be able to generate less relative power.<br /><br />The bourgeoisie will move into the very heavily policed core to better service the capital-ownership.<br /><br />Capital has no use for the less-skilled/educated now. I am certain that it will try to minimize its need for the petty-B as well.<br /><br />I am not recommending that we use the Marxist "solution", but damn, they do define the problem exceedingly well Degringoladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893964959960977677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-22583165772700281122014-06-27T07:18:09.502-04:002014-06-27T07:18:09.502-04:00Roanoke Va sounds similar, the less educated citiz...Roanoke Va sounds similar, the less educated citizens don't realize that their taxes are going to create a new downtown for the, let's say wealthy young people. Millions are being spent to make things look nice to "bring more jobs to town". It sucks the money from the uneducated and the new jobs are for the upper incomes, when the zombies finally see how they were ripped off it will be too late.Sunnybrook Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135224259672444423noreply@blogger.com