tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post3615124763024176446..comments2023-10-17T03:41:01.759-04:00Comments on reflexiones finales: Miami as the new Venicerussell1200http://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-29293936921712683712013-07-11T11:17:57.996-04:002013-07-11T11:17:57.996-04:00Pioneer: The people saying its not rising seem to ...Pioneer: The people saying its not rising seem to have a very strong agenda. If you can find a source without that sort of agenda I would be interested.<br /><br />On the other side there are a lot of folks who also have a political agenda. But you also have a lot of scientist types who don't.<br /><br />In North Carolina, the local scientists, who are doing the recording, show maps which are not all that alarming. It's not as if Raleigh becomes beachfront property. But the Republican legislature decided that the State was not allowed to use any of the data.<br /><br />It has been a while now since the a number of Republicans have retreated on the global warming issue, and took the fall back position that it's not because of anything we did. Occasionally they ignore this argument and advance the idea (one that I think is a little more plausible) that we would be going into an ice age if it weren't for all the extra carbon.<br /><br />It's a little like the biblical creationists. They argued, and argued, but as the evidence kept piling up, they eventually came to just creating their own evidence, and ignoring the rest of it. Some of my relatives, sighting absolute no evidence, now like to say that they think that natural processes occur at different rates at different times: a general position that sounds simple but starts opening up an even larger can of worms when you start digging in.<br /><br />The climate denialists are already at this point. The scientists they had on their side (data skeptics mostly) have been changing sides as more data is looked at. The political folks, of course, don't care.russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2216751897705338056.post-79809770203935541902013-07-11T08:19:13.075-04:002013-07-11T08:19:13.075-04:00Sea levels are not rising. I will go find it again...Sea levels are not rising. I will go find it again but there are other studies and researchers who show otherwise.<br /><br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.com